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a425couple
2024-11-11 03:33:36 UTC
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"So, you want me to believe that you voted for a ---
all sorts of foul opinions about Trump.

Baxter is going to believe whatever he wants.
I have warned him for many months that workers, citizens,
and voters are upset about inflation, student loan forgiveness,
and mass unchecked immigration.
He has denied it every time.
The voters have now spoken quite clearly.

Biden, Kamala Harris, and the Elite Democratic bosses
are in decline. Many are packing.

Elsewhere I will plan to post how Democrat Representative
Marie Gesenkamp Perez won he election just a few miles
north of Baxter by appealing to upset working voters.

Also, one should look for David Brooks editorial
in the 10 Nov. 2024 NYT
"Voters to Elites: Do you see me now?"
A very good one!

Here Bernie Sanders expressed his thoughts
(which Baxter also did not like!)

While Baxter blames the voters, Bernie Sanders blames Democratic Party
"Democratic Party which has abandoned working class"
elsewhere (theconversation), He continued:
Unbelievably, real, inflation-accounted-for weekly wages for the average
American worker are actually lower now than they were 50 years ago.
She sought to dampen social divisions rather than accentuate them.

from
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-response-presidential-election/story?id=115582079

Bernie Sanders blasts Democratic Party following Kamala Harris loss
The Vermont independent called the Democratic Party's campaign "disastrous."

ByAllison Pecorin and Meredith Deliso
November 6, 2024, 3:35 PM

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Bernie Sanders blasts Democratic Party following Kamala Harris loss

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders issued a scathing statement on what he
called the Democratic Party's "disastrous" campaign following Kamala
Harris' loss.
Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders issued a scathing statement on what he
called the Democratic Party's "disastrous" campaign after Vice President
Kamala Harris lost the presidential election to former President Donald
Trump.

The independent, who caucuses with Democrats, said it "should come as no
great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class
people would find that the working class has abandoned them."

MORE: Exit poll analysis 2024: Trump leverages economic discontent,
extends his appeal -- and breaks the mold
"First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black
workers as well," Sanders continued in his statement. "While the
Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are
angry and want change. And they're right."

The longtime progressive champion, who ran for president in 2016 and
2020, reflected on the ways Americans continue to experience economic
instability, from income and wealth inequality to a lack of guaranteed
paid family and medical leave.

In this March 7, 2024, file photo, Sen. Bernie Sanders talks to the
media as he walks to the House chamber before President Joe Biden's
State of the Union address at the U.S. Capitol, in Washington, D.C.
Jose Luis Magana/AP
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Sanders, who won reelection Tuesday to a fourth six-year term in the
U.S. Senate, cast doubt about the party's ability to learn its lesson.

"Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the
Democratic Party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign?
Will they understand the pain and political alienation that tens of
millions of Americans are experiencing? Do they have any ideas as to how
we can take on the increasingly powerful Oligarchy which has so much
economic and political power? Probably not," Sanders said.

Sanders said "very serious political discussions" are now merited about
the path forward for "those of us concerned about grassroots democracy
and economic justice," before ending his statement with, "Stay tuned."

also from
https://theconversation.com/bernie-sanders-says-the-left-has-lost-the-working-class-has-it-forgotten-how-to-speak-to-them-243160

Harris’s attempt to build her campaign around social movements of gender
and race failed abjectly. In particular, the appeal to women on
reproductive rights, and to minority voters by preaching racial harmony
resonated less than Trump’s emphasis on law and order and border
control. Women voted more strongly for Harris than for Trump, but not in
sufficient numbers to get her into the Oval Office. Latinos flocked to
Trump despite his promises to deport undocumented immigrants.
This shows it takes more than political rhetoric to bake people into
voting blocs.
Jim Wilkins
2024-11-11 12:31:32 UTC
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"So, you want me to believe that you voted for a ---
all sorts of foul opinions about Trump.

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Marxist class bigotry belittles those who see through the left's deceptions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumpenproletariat

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